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Published on April 1, 2004 By Poi Dog In Blogging
You know, I've thought about this for fortnights going on a millenia, and I'm so pent up with what my friend calls "aggro" (but I call it being pissed off). I'm so angry with the military for the way they treat their own people! I'm by no means a special case, but I have been compiling a tremendous list of things that the military has done to make my life extremely complicated and full of tension headaches. Consider this, if you have a moment:

On January 31st of 2003, I was involved in a training accident, which ultimately saw me being caught in a riptide and dashed upon the rocks of La Jolla. That incident was powerful enough to rip a swim fin in half, and tear my gear from my face, and in the process breaking my arm, bruising my ribs, tearing up my knee, and dislocating my shoulder. I had contusions so bad I still have lumps of scar tissue under my skin.

Flash forward one month: I am basically told that I need to take off my arm sling and act like I'm able to work my normal job in Search and Rescue so that my command can keep my billet filled, which enables them to continue to function on schedule. I gladly comply, but have to sign a waiver saying that I was 'fit for full duty'. During this time I was taking pain killers, of the Hydrocodone and Tylenol-3 family. A couple of weeks after THAT, I was training for a distance run, and found myself in agony, so I took some of my painkillers. The next day, a random urinalysis. During the testing, I was asked if I took any prescription drugs, and I said, "yes" and mentioned my prescriptions. I went on vacation a little later, and recieved a phone call from my divisional officer, saying that I was 'caught' taking prescription drugs unauthorized, and that I would face non-judicial punishment when I came back from vacation.

And, of course, I was tried non-judicially. I received 45 days of restriction, extra duty, and told that I would begin to separate from the military. I was told that I had a problem with prescription painkillers, and perhaps this would 'sober me up'. Never mind that I still had half of my pills left, and had taken risks on my own personal being to help out my command. Never mind that I was never told, once I declared myself 'fit for full duty', that I wasn't allowed to take those painkillers. Never mind that I had NEVER been in trouble in the military, not even written up for being late, and in fact had been decorated for going above the call of duty in a peaceful situation. And the kicker is this: once I declared myself fit for full duty, the window for clearing my system of my painkillers was 7 days, and I had my urinalysis on the 8th. ONE DAY killed my possible career.

And it went downhill from there. I fought the charges for ONE YEAR. During that time, I was subjected to meaningless work, after being stripped of my specialties and collateral duties. I was treated like a dog, because it was assumed that I would be leaving the military shortly, as in a month. But this dragged on for a year, with several hopes coming and going; always going higher and higher until reaching the political level of the higher warmongers. And ultimately, I was given 'concessions' of being discharged honorably. But when I found out, I was given one week to check out. Now, for those of you who don't know what that means, I'll give you a rough example: Move out of your house, change your job, find new insurance, find a new home, and know that you'll never return to where you came from. One week is all you are allotted.

And that is what I did. And I'm still paying for it. Because I only had one week, the military wouldn't pay for my move (which they normally do, provided that a notice is given at least TWO weeks prior). I wasn't able to sign up for transitional classes to help me find a civilian job. I was told that I had 180 days of carry-over insurance, only to find out that I am uninsured at the moment.

Let me pause to give you another slice of my story here. I have been trying to activate my insurance, only to have been given the run-around through Tri-Care, my command, DEERS, and my current ID facility. The end result was me walking into the ID facility (of which they wouldn't give me directions to since I wanted to talk to the person in charge). I demanded answers, and was given this, "no, I'm sorry, you have no health or dental insurance". I find out that I am entitled, but nobody will help me. My command refuses to talk to me.

And to top it all off, I'm still injured, but my check-out was so rushed, my military doctor said I wasn't entitled to any disability. I'm afraid that even in the future I'll become even more degraded, and will require some crucial medical assitance. All of this will have to come from another insurance source.

Oh, and my GI Bill, which I am entitled to, is not entered into the 'system' yet, and I don't have access to it, and I can't find anyone to help me out there.

My point is this, the military is a waste of YOUR tax money, a waste of time, and they are wasting lives (on the battlefield and off). And to point out another fact, the 'war' we are in is not a war, because it takes a declaration of war from congress. Reservists are dying in the middle of trying to finish college, while they have brand-new infants, new spouses, and clouded visions of what their jobs are. The UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) is ancient and out-dated, and still allows despotic leadership in certain commands. Politics are huge, and the little man or woman at the bottom, working incredibly long hours, are being lashed with the whip of responsibility, and NOT the pigs in charge.

I am a man of integrity, a man of honor, and I work incredibly hard to ensure that I do my job professionally, responsibly, and with pride, no matter where I am, and I was treated with direspect, ignorance, malice, and amateur abandon. Don't ever join the military, not because what I experienced, but because you will not matter to anyone else, only to yourself. And if you matter to yourself, then you should never feel the call of war or whatever the hell the politicos want to name it.

I still admire my peers serving faithfully, but they are still feeling the pain, whereas now I am free. I cherish my memories, but I would not want to bestow my experiences upon anyone. If you are an efficient, logical, intelligent being, stay out of the military. But this is only one man's opinion, of course, and subject to the whims of life.

p.s. If you think I had a hard time (or not), check out the news, and you'll find people like Yee, the chaplain, accused of espionage, only to be acquitted and then charged with looking at pornography on the internet and adultery (a career killer for chaplains). Or perhaps the army captain who 'assaulted' an insurgent while trying to find out about an ambush and/or impending attack on his unit. That 'assault' resulted in saving the lives of his people, while killing his career. Or maybe the two U.S. pilots who killed Canadian troops due to poor intelligence. One pilot put his guts on a tray and REQUESTED a courts-martial in order to clear his name. He was being issued a letter of reprimand, which would have ended his career but saved him from prison, while a courts-martial might have landed him a hefty sentence at Leavenworth. He still lost his career, but was vindicated in half-assed sense. The list is endless, and the people are real. Do your homework, and you'll find that your sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, friends and family are being thown into the blender, and nobody raises a finger to help them. Why? Because it's the government.

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on Apr 01, 2004
Poi, what a horrible situation you were put through. Were you able to land on your feet? My husband is in the military and we are going through a "situation" right now. I am hoping everything will blow over but they certainly don't tell you anything. It is just being caught up in a huge bureaucracy. You should have called JAG - he could've helped you - lol! just my lame attempt at humor.
on Apr 21, 2004
I agree with you one hundred percent. they dont care. they never will. they treat you like shit then ask for your help. i am in the national guard. it is nothing like i thought it would be. i miss my civilian life. it may be reserve but it is still insane. they dont care about your safty or anything. all they care about is themselves and that the job gets done even if it is something stupid. they dont care. if you are thinking about joining dont. it is not worth it.
on Apr 21, 2004
i am in the national guard. it is nothing like i thought it would be


So, what did you think it was going to be like? That you'd get to sit in the corner and crochet? I mean, you signed on the dotted line, nobody forced you to do it. Surely you must have known that there was a distinct possibility that you'd get activated?



all they care about is themselves and that the job gets done even if it is something stupid.


Probably because the 'job' is part of the 'mission'...and the mission is what's important.....you have to take a step back and look at the big picture.

if you are thinking about joining dont. it is not worth it.



I know hundreds if not thousands of people who would disagree with you. I'm sorry that it's not as you envisioned it, and my best suggestion to you is that you do your time and then get out. Until then, do your DUTY. You're getting paid to do it, you're getting free medical benefits whilst you're doing it..you're a hell of a lot better off than a lot of people in the good ole' US of A.
on Apr 22, 2004
Dharmagrl, it seems almost too easy to be on the other end of a situation, but I have some tremendous news for you: the military is not what you hope it would be. It is extremely corrupt, highly inefficient, undertrained, overworked, and a huge burden on your wallet. Of course the military branches rely on people to join and do their part; that I will never argue. I also won't take away the personal sacrifices that my friends and allies have made. But in the day and age where society and military should reflect each other, there seems to be the opposite effect. And things are not so clear to the troops and sailors and pilots anymore. And you speak about getting paid, as well as benefits? Do you know what the enlisted man and woman makes? Do you know how poor our medical benefits are? That is the very LEAST this country can do for its volunteers (even draftees, should that happen again). Do you think I joined for the pay? I took a huge pay cut to join. I went from about 32k a year to 18k, all so I could be treated like an unintelligent piece of swine, and then got gridlocked in a UCMJ loophole.
I realize that you were responding to the other comment, but it was like an alarm bell ringing in my head, because I feel as if YOU don't have the 'big picture'. That big picture allows for mistreatment, poor benefits, poor pay, an archaic judicial system, a heirarchy that equals the feudal system.
And finally, if you know thousands of people who would disagree *that actively work in the military*, then I'll give you a hundred thousand that don't, because I don't know one person who wants to be in Iraq. Not one. And now that my army buddies are back, my marine friends and relatives have taken their place, and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM thinks this a crock of ****. Yes, we all signed on the dotted line, and we understood that we would be taking risks, but those risks involved things like enemy fire, training accidents, etc, not being sacrificial lambs for the sake of a Captain trying to make Admiral (insert lame story here).
Sorry to take this out with your handle at the header, but I'm sick of misconceptions becoming standard media ideology. Our military is like our economy is becoming: a few fat cows and a billion little shards of grass.
on Apr 22, 2004
Agree 100% Poi Dog.

I spent 4 full years in the USMC and know firsthand that what you say is true; when I recall my younger idealistic days so full of blind patriotism, I probably would have disagreed with you like dharmagrl.

As I've aged, I've seen that the American military are nothing, NOTHING more than 'useful idiots' used to forward the agenda of globalism and Zionism all under the phony guise of "protecting our freedoms".

A Christian nation is completely forbidden by the globalist rulers (remember Serbia?) and the procedure is underway to eradicate Muslim nations...but the one nation that IS "allowed" to exist is the Jewish nation of Israel; criticism in this vein will get you labelled an "anti-Semite" (regardless of the fact that 90% of Muslims are Semites and less than 10% of Jews are - 90% of Jews are white Khazars that use the so-called "Holocaust" myth to elevate themselves to Preferred Oppressed Minority status to get their way.

Stay in school and start a small business - the military is nothing but hype and WILL get you killed.
on Apr 22, 2004
I hear what your saying. My hubby is military. Over the past three years I have seen nothing but incompetence.
It's a shame, I really believe they see military personel as expenditures.
Yes, the pay sucks. But at least it's guaranteed...sort of....and yes, there is the insurance..with the many problems that it creates.
The government should pay politicians less and military ENLISTED more. It IS the enlisted that do the brunt of the work.
My hubby works LONG shifts, some up to 14 hours, and gets (roughly) 9.50 ph.....40 hr week....
Politicians make how much? And they work how long? and their covered for life after they leave office.

Like I have said in other posts,
I am proud of him, and his decision to join the military. I stand behind HIM and the many others sworn to protect our country, not our government.
on Apr 22, 2004
I had written a similar "I hate the military story" a while back.
It's called "no protection in the military"... my story is a little different....I put the URL down if you want to read it...
http://1crazylady.joeuser.com/index.asp?AID=9557

One other thing I wanted to add.
Have you tried going to you Representative? I have tried that in the past on a smaller type issue, I got what help I needed....to start with. Just a thought.
on Apr 22, 2004
Poi Dog - it is very easy to blame someone else for your own bad decisions. *You* signed the waiver, *You* went along with what your command wanted without checking your options. The military doesn't hold guns to anyones heads anymore. There are literally dozens of organizations set up to help keep you abreast of your rigths while you are in the military. Just reading youraccount of the situation I cans pot about 6 places where your chain of command gave you bad advice and you took it without checking. There is a difference between trust and trust with verification. Sometimes you feel pressure from your chain of command to do something true, but folding under that pressure and never going to JAG or the IG to check and see if you are doing the right thing is simply you abdicating your own personal responsibility. Did the chain of command fuck you over royally? Yes they did, but you helped them do it. Take a bit of the blame yoruself and realize that your problems were a combination of bad people fucking you and your own unwillingness to take the extra step to check things out. "The military" didn't fuck you, some people in it did. There is a difference.
on Apr 22, 2004
On the up side you did get an apparent beleiver in the "zionist" conspiracy on your side. Watch the company you keep son.
on Apr 22, 2004
Dharmagrl, it seems almost too easy to be on the other end of a situation, but I have some tremendous news for you: the military is not what you hope it would be. It is extremely corrupt, highly inefficient, undertrained, overworked, and a huge burden on your wallet.


Please don't preach to me about the military until you know what my experience is. I've been around it a long, long time. I've seen changes come and go, and I've seen JEEPS come and go...and I would hazard a guess that you may be one of the latter. So, if the pay's no good and the benefits suck, why exactly did you enlist?



Do you know what the enlisted man and woman makes? Do you know how poor our medical benefits are?


Errm, yeah I do. I've known all about it for 15 years now.

Like Greywar said, you helped yourself along the path.
on Apr 22, 2004
hmm... well, it's 4:15, and I have to start getting ready for school (which the military is paying 100% of my tuition for) but I can bear this no longer. I must comment. I would call it my 2 cents, but that doesn't really sum it up, because I served 6 years in the Army and have now been in the Air Force for almost 4 years. In my mind, that makes my opinion the epitome of valid. Nevermind the fact that my brother has been in the military for 13 years, and my father for over 30. (and let's not forget my uncles who have a combined total of over 45 years in)

I had to tell you all that, so you would know where I'm coming from.

The government does not always take care of the people in the military. I will agree with Poi Dog 100% on that one. But that does NOT mean that the entire institution and all that it's made of is corrupt. For every 100 examples you can give me of people getting screwed by the military, I can give you 101 examples of people that are getting "squared away"... I'm not saying that this makes it "ok" for the military to screw people, I just want to offer the alternative perspective that the military is NOT all bad.

For one thing, it's important to distinguish between the services. Having never served in the Marine Core, I cannot pretend to know what those folks go through. But I have met quite a few Marines in my travels. On a blazing hot day in late September of 1994, less than one year after graduating from Basic Training and AIT, my company relieved a company of Marines in a series of foxholes surrounding the airport in Cap Haitien Haiti. We sat in those fox holes for 2 weeks with nothing to eat but MREs, pulling 12 hours of guard per day, with no showers, no contact with the outside world, and nothing to do but stare at the Haitien people on the other side of the wire. In the first 3 weeks we got one shower, and that was nothing more than one of our buddies pouring cold water on us behind a curtain. And you know what the kicker here is? we actually had the nerve to think that we had it rough. The truth is, that was NOTHING compared to what the soldiers went through in the Vietnam war, or WWII...

But i'm getting off topic. The Marines are fanatical about being Marines. Once they go through the "hell" that is Parris Island, they are transformed into a "Marine", and they will be a "Marine" for life. They have the most espirit de corps that you'll find in the military, and they look out for one another like you would not believe. When I was in Airborne school, a 19 year old marine was found passed out in the quad with an empty bottle of Jack Daniels in his hand. He was policed up by his buddies and taken care of. He's prob'ly since gone on to become a great leader, as well as a great alcoholic, but let's not get into that... my point? the Marines look out for their own for the most part.

The Army... aaahhhh the Army. I could fill Brad's entire blog storage drive with stories of Army folks getting screwed, and then fill the backup drive with stories of times that I saw Army folks getting taken care of. Are there politics involved in awards and decorations, in who gets promoted, in who gets the easy jobs, and who gets the shit jobs? you bet your ass there are. But you cannot tell me that you won't face the exact same politics in the outside world. Nearly any company or 'corporation' in the civilian world is going to have the same "dog eat dog" mentality, the same underhanded tactics, the same cut throat motherfuckers in its ranks. So please DON"T try n make out like the military is this evil institution that screws all of its members.

Damnit! it's already 4:37, and I have to get my ass to class. I still haven't fleshed out those stories about the Army folks (the good and the bad) I still haven't covered the Air Force, I still haven't told the story of how I got screwed once... But hey, Uncle Sam is paying 100% of my tuition for me to go to school while I'm on active duty... I guess the least I can do is go to class and learn something. It's been 2 years now that he's been footin' this bill, and i'm only 2 classes away from graduating...

I love the military!
on Apr 22, 2004
What's a JEEP?

-- B
on Apr 22, 2004
Just enough education to pass
on Apr 22, 2004
Also known as Junior Enlisted Expendable Personnel.

I agree, MJ, there are situations I've seen where the military HASN'T taken care of it's people...but there are more instances where I've seen people getting what the needed, when they needed it, even if it meant having to do it myself (I'll explain more about that in a different blog - let's just say I had a lot of pull with the brass not so long ago and could get shit done if I needed to).
on Apr 22, 2004
You know, I do probably have more angst than many at the situation(s) that I have gone through, and that entails the paper trail and lack of care or concern, but I wholeheartedly state again, "The military is corrupt". What makes it so? I'd say when their waste exceeds their benefit.

And I apologize if anybody else feels or felt as if I were speaking for them, because I'm not. I don't dare presume to know how everyone feels, I simply have a lot of friends that I've worked closely with, or are related to, and I have seen them go through too much in many different aspects. And I think something needs to be said when I sign a work order for a $36,000 simple logic board that was made in 1976 and can be put together by monkeys and a soldering iron, while watching a coworker apply for foodstamps, I think that's corruption. When I see an enlisted person fake a mental disorder to get discharged, and earns disability off of my taxes, that is corruption. When I see the political/contractor cash cow milking itself and stroking itself on the back and decreases military spending, that is corruption. Everything is so outdated, inefficient, and reckless that there needs to be some serious overhauling.

At one point I, too, loved the military, but not for what it did or didn't do for me, it was because of my ideology, my peers, and my hope for something better. And I will always support those before and after me. Now I'll shut up in order to preserve whatever I have left in this discussion. I guess I shouldn't let my frustration exceed my own limitational boundaries.

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